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Registered: Sep 2006
Originally posted by ShinyToyGun
how do you guys feel on apps like telegram, where you can have encrypted secured chats?
I think it should be forbidden. If you want to talk in private meet up ffs.
Do you think government (military intelligence) should be able to control app data (such as whatsapp, messenger apps...)
I think they should (and only military!) be able to do this in times of terror alert. I don't think this compromises my freedom if this means my family and friends are safe.
No, just no to both. It's not worth to sacrifice freedom for the illusion of better (or perfect) security.
We're on the edge to remove the last differences between democracy and dictatorships/totalitarian regimes. Torture has fallen already. Also imprisonment without rights.
And we've seen that neither backdoors nor weak encryption algorithms help anything, they don't work for the "good ones" only. They just enable criminals and "the bad ones", too - including intelligence agencies of enemies.
And what is "being safe" anyway? In our society, we accept thousands of people to die every year in traffic alone. Sure, terrorism is something different, but the question should be, where does it actually come from? And the inconvenient answer is: from giant f'ckkups in other countries where wars have been fought which should've never been started in the first place (e.g. Iraq), where democratic elected leaders where replaced by dictatorships because of economic and/or strategic interests (e.g. Iran, Syria). Without these giant f'ckkups, there would be a lot less terrorist nutjobs misusing Islam to legitimate murder and terror.
What pisses me off is the failure of the intelligence agencies. After each attack (2x Paris, now Brussels) they say the terrorists were known by either police and/or intelligence agencies. But they're unable - seems rather unwilling - to do their jobs regarding these targets, but always want wore abilities to spy on everyone. But the solution to find the needle in the haystack is not more hay. Identify the targets, then do the necessary surveillance for those targets and people they're communicating with. There're certainly enough laws allowing that for police and/or intelligence agencies.
Last edited by boink on 03-24-2016 at 10:28 PM
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