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Kr@zy4P!nk
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Originally posted by purple18
like when she decided not to vaccinate the kids



oh no... I just had a visceral reaction to this. I'm hoping that Pink meant Willow was too young for certain vaccines. TTAL tour promo was roughly 2013 right? That's when Willow was roughly 1-2yo. There are some vaccinates like MMR and chickenpox that you get around that time that Willow might not have gotten yet. So i'm gonna give her the benefit of the doubt

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he has these "white trash redneck" kind of posts about gun control and environmentalism


Any chance you can link me or quote some things that make you angry?

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I dunno where else to post this because i want to hear other people's opinions, but i am starting to dislike Carey he has these "white trash redneck" kind of posts about gun control and environmentalism and i just dont get how P!nk can like him. He acts like a douchebag sometimes really. Although i do not agree with some of P!nk's decisions either (like when she decided not to vaccinate the kids), i find it hard that she would approve some of his views. It's just strange. Anyone else agree or is it just me?
I cant stand him, hes a typical american douche from my point of view. And WHAT? I didnt know the kids werent vaccinated. I lost a lot of respect for Pink now, thats one of the things i really cant understand.

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Originally posted by Kr@zy4P!nk
Any chance you can link me or quote some things that make you angry?
Just check his instagram. I stopped following him a long time ago, yet i go check it every now and then as i enjoy following Willow growing up

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» Dani
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I cant stand him, hes a typical american douche from my point of view. And WHAT? I didnt know the kids werent vaccinated. I lost a lot of respect for Pink now, thats one of the things i really cant understand.


I might sound stupid now and not following this discussion as I should, but why is it wrong not to vaccinate? And why should you vaccinate?

I guess I have all those stuff, and I got vaccinated as a child, but I just want to understand this discussion.

I know we have that flue vaccination here every winter time and it costs loads and loads of money and somehow I just think it's bull**** and them wanting to make money. I don't know why but that's just what I think. And I keep reading about people getting that vaccination and then getting sick anyway. I have never got it and I have never been sick from the flu either.

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I might sound stupid now and not following this discussion as I should, but why is it wrong not to vaccinate? And why should you vaccinate?

I guess I have all those stuff, and I got vaccinated as a child, but I just want to understand this discussion.

I know we have that flue vaccination here every winter time and it costs loads and loads of money and somehow I just think it's bull**** and them wanting to make money. I don't know why but that's just what I think. And I keep reading about people getting that vaccination and then getting sick anyway. I have never got it and I have never been sick from the flu either.

Not vaccinating your kids mean you risk their lives, diseases that we can vaccinate against such as measles and polio for example can be fatal. If as many kids as possible are vaccinated we can create herd immunity, that means that even if some individuals are unable to get vaccinated (due to weakness or illness) or fail to become immune themselves the herd immunity keeps them safe from exposure to the viruses.

Some people like to spread that vaccines are dangerous and lead to issues such as autism for example, though it is a fact that there is no connection between autism and vaccines.

If you dont risk your own life or people around you (if you work with the elderly or care in general) then you probably dont need a flu shot. But it does save lives.

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Lucky enough, its not yet that common to be against vaccines in Sweden. But people are becoming more and more stupid, i have a friend that is so much against it she wont even vaccinate her cats and actually defended this stupidity after her cat got sick and it looked like it was one of the diseases she could have prevented with a tiny shot.

Its disgusting to me, to be so stubborn that you dont listen to science. I mean sure, be skeptical to things, but dont be stubborn just for the sake of it.

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Not vaccinating your kids mean you risk their lives, diseases that we can vaccinate against such as measles and polio for example can be fatal. If as many kids as possible are vaccinated we can create herd immunity, that means that even if some individuals are unable to get vaccinated (due to weakness or illness) or fail to become immune themselves the herd immunity keeps them safe from exposure to the viruses.

Some people like to spread that vaccines are dangerous and lead to issues such as autism for example, though it is a fact that there is no connection between autism and vaccines.

If you dont risk your own life or people around you (if you work with the elderly or care in general) then you probably dont need a flu shot. But it does save lives.



Okay then yeah, I don't get why she would not vaccinate them. I'm sure she meant that W was too young.

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Originally posted by Kr@zy4P!nk
Any chance you can link me or quote some things that make you angry?
https://instagram.com/p/BbmZNVnjQ8f/

https://instagram.com/p/Bat9_JdjMF0/

https://instagram.com/p/BOFwbophj5X/

To name a few. They dont make me angry - they just annoy me because it's twisting facts and twisting words and brain-washing. Just stupid.

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Originally posted by Little_Peculiar
Lucky enough, its not yet that common to be against vaccines in Sweden. But people are becoming more and more stupid, i have a friend that is so much against it she wont even vaccinate her cats and actually defended this stupidity after her cat got sick and it looked like it was one of the diseases she could have prevented with a tiny shot.

Its disgusting to me, to be so stubborn that you dont listen to science. I mean sure, be skeptical to things, but dont be stubborn just for the sake of it.



I have to get the TBE vaccin. I had no idea ticks could make you paralyzed and ****.

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https://instagram.com/p/BbmZNVnjQ8f/

https://instagram.com/p/Bat9_JdjMF0/

https://instagram.com/p/BOFwbophj5X/

To name a few. They dont make me angry - they just annoy me because it's twisting facts and twisting words and brain-washing. Just stupid.



Wow, that makes him look pretty stupid.

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Wow, that makes him look pretty stupid.


I am curious about the discussions him and P has. They should start their own talk show with ***** fights and stuff Not saying she doesn't agree with him but just thinking it'd be fun

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Originally posted by » Dani
I might sound stupid now and not following this discussion as I should, but why is it wrong not to vaccinate? And why should you vaccinate?

I guess I have all those stuff, and I got vaccinated as a child, but I just want to understand this discussion.

I know we have that flue vaccination here every winter time and it costs loads and loads of money and somehow I just think it's bull**** and them wanting to make money. I don't know why but that's just what I think. And I keep reading about people getting that vaccination and then getting sick anyway. I have never got it and I have never been sick from the flu either.

yeah the flu shots are different. They change that every year to make it consistent with the current virus. However, the purpose of that is different: it's mostly to protect older people and make less people fall out of work.

Shots that you get as a child are against diseases that have been almost extinct, exactly because of vaccines. The point of it is basically to contribute to herd immunity, like Anna said - herd immunity protects people who cannot get vaccinated for health reasons and all other people who would be in danger of contracting the disease, like the elderly. Sad news is that i read that there are places in the US where these nearly extinct diseases came back and they kill babies. Because some people decided to not vaccinate... aside from how infuriating it is it's an interesting topic, you should read about how vaccines actually work and herd immunity.

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Okay then yeah, I don't get why she would not vaccinate them. I'm sure she meant that W was too young.
i hope so but for some reason i feel sure she mentioned this more than once but i cant find proof. So hopefully it was just about that.

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I HAVE PROOF!!

So I’m watching the  Music doc, the making of the album one, and in her opening she says “and your 8 year old has a vaccination”

So the kids do get their shots. Case closed

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